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The Culling Dev's Delusional Response To Pay-Per-Match Monetization Backlash 

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SOURCE 1: Xaviant/status/1260997589262008321
SOURCE 2: www.pcgamer.com/the-culling-is-keeping-its-pay-to-play-system-but-xaviant-regrets-how-it-was-announced/
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YongYea
YongYea 5 päivää sitten
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John Johnson
John Johnson Päivä sitten
Just being silly but... Probably that reality from Rick and Morty with all the butts...
David Garvin
David Garvin 3 päivää sitten
Yong, have you read ubisoft's new terms of service going into effect August 12? If not you need to look into it and PLEASE do a video over it. Basically, and I pray I am misinterpreting but if you stream/upload any video containing ubisoft property, they own it forever. That's nuts but IT GETS SO MUCH WORSE, if you feature your image in that video, ubisoft OWNS YOUR LIKENESS FOREVER and what's crazier if you feature a friend or fan they also own that persons likeness. If a fan didnt want their image used and Sue's ubisoft, then YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PENALTIES INCURRED. Please look into this and do a video over it, we need to stop this now, we need to raise awareness and raise our pitchforks be ause if this gets through, it will become the norm, thanks man.
Guy Called Book
Guy Called Book 4 päivää sitten
Xaviant is the DSP of game developers
Viktor Gabriel
Viktor Gabriel 4 päivää sitten
so they are doing the same thing as Magic the Gathering do and people are ok whit that for some reason
Ivan Kleshchevnikov
Ivan Kleshchevnikov 4 päivää sitten
Maan, could ypu speak about the outraging pay to win system in AGE OF Z? and other games of the same studio? Those bastards really allow people willing to stay at top by paying for their packs destroy, insult and do whatever the fuck they want with no concern for the hate they generate and how they belittle other players, please expose them..
DC4Life BilCaesar
DC4Life BilCaesar 13 tuntia sitten
Is it me or does JVV look like the type of guy that you wouldn’t leave alone with your kids??
TheSaxRunner05
TheSaxRunner05 15 tuntia sitten
He has 600 likes and 30,000 dislikes, this video now has 30,000 likes and 600 dislikes 😂
bodoti qwiu
bodoti qwiu 11 tuntia sitten
This is the most I have ever seen YongYea been just like WTF
justin mccann
justin mccann 15 tuntia sitten
They ended up giving 25 free games per day which only the grindiest players will even get through. Meanwhile you stack tokens for wins. I have paid nothing and as of this post I would have to lose over 80 matches in a row all in one day before im forced to pay for even a single token. It seems like a greedy cash grab but the reality is they will make no money because they even managed to screw up their cash grab.
bodoti qwiu
bodoti qwiu 11 tuntia sitten
wait, wait, wait, they want to keep lobbies full... with one game per day per player....
Joshua Tay
Joshua Tay 17 tuntia sitten
I'm so tired of seeing companies do this to our games I hope one day that companies will learn to be consumer friendly like cd project red valuing quality and making the actual damn game
Brickster 000
Brickster 000 19 tuntia sitten
Yong is just jealous that he can't make a great monetization strategy such as this one. I mean, this will be remembered throughout history.
mastertracuer
mastertracuer 19 tuntia sitten
Who the hell is liking that initial video?!? I'd say his staff and friends but I doubt he has that many 😂😂
Rain
Rain 20 tuntia sitten
Do you want people to cheat in your game? Cuz this is how you get cheaters in your game.
Cole Fox
Cole Fox 20 tuntia sitten
It's called capitalism, dummy
lucid
lucid 21 tunti sitten
lol... "it's so cringe-worthy...seeing this guy - just delusionally jerking himself off while everyone stares at him in embarrassment and pity and disgust" damn
fireboy1126
fireboy1126 21 tunti sitten
those millions just signed up and probably quit within an hour of downloading the game. or just bots..large playerbase consisting of 99% dead accounts..lol
1DANIELTUBE
1DANIELTUBE 23 tuntia sitten
Look at all that garbage in the background
The Butcher
The Butcher 23 tuntia sitten
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He thought his problem was going to be TOO MANY players? Big brain right there.
Isaiah Bradford III
Isaiah Bradford III 23 tuntia sitten
I think this is the most pissed off and shocked I've ever heard YongYea.
WELLbethere
WELLbethere Päivä sitten
He thinks the problem was that he didn't have a good enough scheme to squeeze as much money as possible from people playing his game, even now with people being outraged, all he thinks is, "they are complaining because they are would-be money-spenders, but I don't have the means and knowhow right now to take all their money." This man is not a fucking human being. He sees people purely as objects of monetary opportunity.
Daniel Brooker
Daniel Brooker Päivä sitten
I can't wait for this game to launch! Just so I can watch it burn 🤣
Ja
Ja Päivä sitten
I don't get what everybody is so mad about. What this payment model bears down to is a subscription fee with few extra options. It's not new and it's not this abhorrent thing you all make it out to be. I don't get all this anger. I understand that everyone is causious about new payment systems, cuz they don't want for it to become new microtransactions, but this reaction is abysmal and I'm very confused watching it all play out
Tushnim Gangopadhyay
Tushnim Gangopadhyay Päivä sitten
Is Bethesda paying these guys so we have someone else to hate on this year?
Dekanah Denfor
Dekanah Denfor Päivä sitten
wait, wait, wait, they want to keep lobbies full... with one game per day per player....
D Stutesman
D Stutesman Päivä sitten
This is the most I have ever seen YongYea been just like WTF
NOphion Trollbringer
NOphion Trollbringer Päivä sitten
Game subscriptions just arent the future anymore. League of Legends is FTP since launch and still makes a shitload of money through skins and other stuff. Fortnite is free as well, but you can pay for a more rewarding experience. This business model is stupid and if we ever let something this crooked happen, like we ignored lootboxes until it was too late, then we can bury this industry all together.
bodoti qwiu
bodoti qwiu Päivä sitten
be.
Anon
Anon Päivä sitten
One of the twitter replies said Final Fantasy 14 does the same thing, because yes, an mmorpg is totally the same as a battle royale.
Without Name
Without Name Päivä sitten
@bodoti qwiu money, money, money Where is fun at game? 👀
bodoti qwiu
bodoti qwiu Päivä sitten
The games industry is steadily going to hell. The fact that having 10 or 20 dollar "micro" transactions in games is considered standard, and that shitty tactics as disgusting as
Sixgun Sporty
Sixgun Sporty Päivä sitten
We're all laughing now but this will be in AAA games by next generation
Antonio Sonntag
Antonio Sonntag Päivä sitten
Funny how there are around the same number of dislikes on this video as there are likes on the announcement of the pay-to-play system.
karthikarn
karthikarn Päivä sitten
It should be "2 steps backwards..and 1 forward" so the move doesnt look as bad
MJ1284
MJ1284 Päivä sitten
Gordon Gekko says "Greed is good". Van Veld says "Well alrighty then!"
Without Name
Without Name Päivä sitten
Sounds like cheat from blizzard
Sean Warren
Sean Warren Päivä sitten
Lost me on culling one when I couldn't get in just after purchase. I'll never send money back down that hole, this just confirms it. This asshole can go back to his grandma's basement as far as I'm concerned.
Daxank
Daxank Päivä sitten
Basically this guy thinks "We should have just told people "HEY! You don't have to pay for it!""
Please_Consume_Irresponsibly
Unless I’m getting money for winning, why would I pay per match? This game is like a precursor to bracket style gambling in gaming, which wouldn’t be necessarily bad, but would definitely classify it as an AO (18+) game in the US. My moneys betting on they’re testing the waters for some form of gambling.
Soldat Daniels
Soldat Daniels Päivä sitten
Indie developers! Here's some *FREE* advice: as someone who's played and seen some good games made by small studios, and still play soe of them, *DO NOT* go anywhere near this guy's idea. Just do what you set out to do: share your art, story, characters, imagination with us. Need some inspiration? Some pointers? Pillars Of Eternity 1 n 2, Dragonage Origins, Tyranny, the good CODs, the good Battlefields, Greedfall and last but not least, Outer Worlds.
Soldat Daniels
Soldat Daniels Päivä sitten
Somewhere, in a tall structure built of glass, metal, an ego........and greed..........you could almost hear an assembly of creatures.....clothed in suits black as the coal, cackling, as they move to nullify......or hoodwink their trusted customers.
Brian's Late Night Whatever
Ok ok. Yong. You can’t say “If you look at the like to dislike ratio it’s really bad.” And have participated in said downvoting. It’s like saying “look at all the backlash this game is getting” and you’re the top comment.
Gan Khef
Gan Khef Päivä sitten
Ouch. That ending was a bit brutal.
opzz xsin
opzz xsin Päivä sitten
It’s 2020, I’m about to buy a GameCube and play that for the rest of my life.
opzz xsin
opzz xsin Päivä sitten
development team having such low standards and expectations for their work.
KW Entertainment
KW Entertainment Päivä sitten
Being the genre that it is, this is easily worse than EA with Battlefront 2. So many times you just get dropped into a match and die within 5 seconds. Being worse than EA is the lowest of the low.
Ussmak
Ussmak Päivä sitten
Perhaps making another shitty PUBG clone isn't a recipe for success after all?
Without Name
Without Name Päivä sitten
Wait isn't PUBG from arma, battle royale movie, hunger games? Then it is just mods game
Spotikiss
Spotikiss 2 päivää sitten
I hope this has a no review rating fingers crossed
The Deranged Gamer
The Deranged Gamer 2 päivää sitten
I just looked up there last months player count, Low of 0 high of 10 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA i think this games being culled from the inside... also i think those "10" are people in the game dev team looking for bugs if that
Karson James
Karson James 2 päivää sitten
The games industry is steadily going to hell. The fact that having 10 or 20 dollar "micro" transactions in games is considered standard, and that shitty tactics as disgusting as this and all the BS with bethesda and FO76, or even the literal gambling in the update to every EA sports game every year that they charge full price for, doesn't immediately destroy a company is baffling.
Kamuzu
Kamuzu 2 päivää sitten
Why cant they just randomly add a battle pass like every other game those typically make a lot of money if what's in it isn't garbage so then people want to play so they can level up the battle pass.
Without Name
Without Name 23 tuntia sitten
@Kamuzu a game like that is totally mess up
Without Name
Without Name 23 tuntia sitten
@Kamuzu i saw that on PUGB or even moba or elsewhere
Kamuzu
Kamuzu 23 tuntia sitten
@Without Name not really that good but for some reason people like to buy battle passes, and it's better than having to pay just to play, like that's so stupid
Without Name
Without Name Päivä sitten
Meh loot boxes
Raindrop Thunder
Raindrop Thunder 2 päivää sitten
If you don’t care why do you make vids on it tbh your just using them for money to get content you don’t care about others thoughts you just care about your own thoughts
Bad Day
Bad Day 2 päivää sitten
the market decides what's reasonably priced lol. By that, I mean what they're willing to spend on the games.
golden panda
golden panda 2 päivää sitten
He sees it like there Activision like it's thr Call of Duty brand they see it as these players even though they're getting abused will keep spending money on there game but he doesn't have the history. Cant blame him people still play games that try to milk them most likely his mind set
MegaHellstrike
MegaHellstrike 2 päivää sitten
The official Culling twitter account still to this day hasn't tweeted about the servers reopening, their header still says it's free to play on Steam and "coming soon" to Xbox... Shows how much they care about their game.
MegaHellstrike
MegaHellstrike 2 päivää sitten
I really, really, really wish that Xaviant and by extension The Culling could finally die for good. The more the game fails the more developers will think that a melee focused BR can't work, but it totally can! Hope someday someone competent makes and maintains a melee royale, god knows Culling and Darwin Project will never amount to anything again.
Soundwave142
Soundwave142 2 päivää sitten
I am going to laugh when that one player goes, “Where is everyone?”
phillip hanna
phillip hanna 2 päivää sitten
oh you didn't kno hes ea's financial adviser
toxman99
toxman99 2 päivää sitten
Maybe he is a stable genius who's using reverse psychology on everyone. lol
Lux
Lux 2 päivää sitten
Well. Someone actually did it... Someone actually screwed up so badly that they almost make EA and Bethesda look decent by comparison. ... Almost. But not quite.
[CleverUsername]
[CleverUsername] 2 päivää sitten
Xaniant should cull themselves
BeastGamingHD
BeastGamingHD 2 päivää sitten
I've never played the game but have seen it around. After seeing the shit storm circling this game, I can safely say that I won't ever be playing it, especially with their own development team having such low standards and expectations for their work.
Kristaps Savnors
Kristaps Savnors 2 päivää sitten
anyone knows where I could get that cyberpunk figure?
RiderofStorms
RiderofStorms 2 päivää sitten
This game is just a quick flip...spend low, earn high like...what the hell. By gating the content people want behind paying more, you lose players, less players means less spenders, which means more wasted cash because you developed a game that died
brad saulnier
brad saulnier 2 päivää sitten
This is like putting lipstick on a pig. Just said this is what it’s come to. Just please let this game die for good
Damn Daniel
Damn Daniel 2 päivää sitten
Is there any we can signal this as a scam to the authorities ?
MCinAssembly
MCinAssembly 2 päivää sitten
What pisses me off is the people who still pay up, they are the reason companies keep doing this, and because of a few people who have nothing else to spend money on, it means everyone else suffers.
dom
dom 2 päivää sitten
When i saw the culling i was iffy to get it just because of the title of it. The culling is sort of a religous thing and when i saw the game i was a bit iffy and offput. Glad i didnt get it.
SkilledAngling
SkilledAngling 2 päivää sitten
It's like putting a garbage bag over a garbage bag. It makes it better but it's still trash
Hero Smash
Hero Smash 2 päivää sitten
Funny part is I thought nobody could out do Konami's Fuckery with Metal Gear Survives greedy save slots lol
nieooj gotoy
nieooj gotoy 2 päivää sitten
Imagine having to pay to play a match where you could die in 2 seconds or DC.
nieooj gotoy
nieooj gotoy 2 päivää sitten
Mark my words. The Culling will win game of the year.
Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer 2 päivää sitten
I want to know the name of the substance josh smokes
TheeRepenter AkaTheeComforter
now that i understand their situation even thou they are dumb. they realize what you stupid fans are ur random u dont know what you want ur like women. what they are planning with that shitty game is to have very few people on the server so they dont have to spend much to keep it going long term and they are planning on gettting a little bit every month from people who just so happen to play it and get tricked into paying for more games its a simple but effective way to get at least some money flowing these guys are clearly just in the business to make money so its all about business models and graphes etc so they know what will make them some money but they dont know trends change they basically make all their money off of foolish little kids or random older idiots who dont know better
TheeRepenter AkaTheeComforter
to be honest they couldnt be more transparent they blew up quicker than they were ready for the number of players broke their pockets before they could fix it but your not a logical person so that doesnt make sense to you. you dont understand that even thou they had a big player base they were not getting enough to cover the huge costs if they had ridden it out like they said they couldve done something with it but they couldnt so they obviously made mistakes on top of the issue because they felt hopeless but you dont realize they are human like you why dont you make a game then see how good you can afford to just spend all you have go in debt on loans just to find out that the player base is random as we all know you fuckers are and they dont wanna play it regularly which most of you dont play ftp games daily you go on your consoles ur a joke the economy is fucked up because of stupid majorities pushing stupid short term trends after trend after trend that have no future just little blips and gimmics none of you would know a good game if it bit you
TheeRepenter AkaTheeComforter
if i dont wanna do it everyday then its not a game i will play at all and on top of that i sure as hell wont pay for a game i dont play everyday and even more so wouldnt buy in game bs from it and even more so wouldnt play one or ten matches or even more pay to play more lol i would just shut it off after the i was out of energy for the matches and come back days latter if i was to play it but i am not and would not i believe all wealthy people or well of people are retarded besides a very very very few they have no clue about what reality is they are too spoiled and have it waaay too easy none of those fools should even have a job
TheeRepenter AkaTheeComforter
i wish they would go back to the style of making a game that is good from the start so you can find the op character and know the game with these constant damned updates players cant get into a groove with a good character and get to really know the game deeply this is why most modern games are failing their updates fuck up the game and take up ever increasing space on the hard drive devs are trash nowadays they do it for money i remember when games were made by devs that actually wanted to make good games
Oli Thurlbourn
Oli Thurlbourn 2 päivää sitten
This is just as shitty as fallout 76
Rick Sanchez
Rick Sanchez 2 päivää sitten
So basically what the devs are saying is: "blah blah blah We are to lazy to make a battle pass, give me your now"
Tobias Kjær
Tobias Kjær 2 päivää sitten
I mean, from a health perspective, this is smart. Instead of playing 10 hours of videogames per day, it is 10 minutes. They are simply telling us to stop being fat sitting bruh moments and leave our chair.
Morphine OD
Morphine OD 2 päivää sitten
That's a very narrow view on the situation. Effectively the game got overexposed. They just wanted to have 5k players and cover their server costs. What is wrong with someone having a different monetization scheme? Are you afraid that it might work and somehow the big publishers will follow the trend?
TheEpicFuzz
TheEpicFuzz 2 päivää sitten
10 matches a day for $6 isn't horrible, you have to admit What? Warzone is free and unlimited matches? So is Fortnite? Huh
Trung Lê Quốc
Trung Lê Quốc 2 päivää sitten
It's simply a matter of creative accounting.
c0ntagion
c0ntagion 2 päivää sitten
Even iRacing has a better monetization strategy. Plus iRacing is one of the top tier games.
shadeglyph
shadeglyph 2 päivää sitten
This reminds me of the Simpson, where Homer calls Vegas, bets, they say he loses and then replies ,"I'll send you a check."
Luna J. Lane
Luna J. Lane 2 päivää sitten
what the hell is going on with these trash developers? How can they think gambling and pay to play mechanics will work? What a shit game.
Captain Lagbeard
Captain Lagbeard 2 päivää sitten
Ironically, with him being so worried about expenses, he probably spent a decent chunk of money designing and implementing this monetization and getting the game back up and running... Only for him to more than likely earn nothing but the distrust and hatred of gamers.
Brigand231
Brigand231 2 päivää sitten
I'm gonna have to agree with the dev here, the choice is take it or leave it and gamers should choose "leave it", they can F the right off just like games with lootboxes, selling back deliberately removed content, pay to win mechanics.... oh right, gamers would rather blame publishers for their awful purchasing decisions. WAKE UP, PEOPLE! The only way publishers will change is if nobody buys their garbage! Instead of crying for the publisher to change, we as gamers need to change. Want better games and better monetization? Earn them by punishing the bad publishers. Now apply the same to government and politicians and shut the F up.
Walter Mercado
Walter Mercado 2 päivää sitten
Mark my words. The Culling will win game of the year.
Jadriam
Jadriam 2 päivää sitten
pay per match is an 'XFL' tier idea: ABSOLUTELY RUINOUS.
Lacerta Veritas
Lacerta Veritas 2 päivää sitten
They need to give me his job. I know exactly how to turn the game around. Exactly how to save it. The real question is, are Xavient employees actually willing to WORK? I feel like they think "the work is done" and now they are entitled to make money doing nothing else. What he said just reinforces the problem, they "offered cosmetic items for purchase"? PLEASE. No new content is ever made. You have to make content and sell it REGULARLY. Like I have to prep food at my restaurant REGULARLY. I didnt just work for a little while and then stop, sitting back and expecting to get paid for work I'm no longer doing... Bottom line is, to save this game you NEED a free to play model, making the game accessible, and you need a shop, with a diverse, rotating stock of items to entice players to make purchases they WANT to make. It's too late to make money off of the unlockable content, even when you wipe out everyone's levels and inventory. Leave that content unlockable. Incentivize compulsory purchases with regular new content via a premium currency like vbucks... Fortnite has a daily rotation of diverse shop items which regularly include new content... I cant even anymore... Xavient, just let me take over. I'm not joking. Hell I'm giving you the right ideas right here. Pair a free to play model which makes the game ACCESSIBLE to new players, incentivizing compulsory purchases that both make players happy and make Xavient money. The key is you have to change your mentality for success; stop expecting to make money without working, get off your lazy asses (tough love) and make some content. Regularly. And in fact The Culling has already had its strike 3 with the 2nd release of 1. This will be strike 4, if this guys delusions are allowed to drag the franchise down into what seems will be an inescapable undertow of... cluelessness and apathy.
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